Don't forget Visual ProMatrix? This framework also does a lot for you ( security, audit trails, error management and user-definable reports to mention a few ) and with no impact to the application's speed. I was productive with this tool within two days and I swear by it now :)

Check it out!

HTH

Larry

>Joe,
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>I cannot claim to be an expert, but I *have* purchased Visual MaxFrame Professional, Mere Mortals, and CodeMine and have evaluated them as much as I have been able, so I can make the following comments with some basis:
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>1) VMP. It does a lot for you, at the price of speed. Previous versions have not addressed 3-tier, but that is being addressed with the new one now in development.
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>2) MM. It is designed with 3-tier and browser based applications in mind, but I find that you have to do a lot of things in a seemingly rudimentary way (I mean validations, particularly).
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>3) CM. It runs *very* fast and I like their code, frankly. Version 7 (in beta) addresses middle tier in a more generally accepted way (business object like). It does take getting used to, although I suppose they all do. They answer your e-mail questions quickly, but I wish there was training available.
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>After paying for all three, I have chosen CM, for whatever my opinion is worth.
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>Alex
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>>I'm selecting a framework for a medium sized application and am looking at these:
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>>Oakleaf's Mere Mortals Framework
>>IAS Application Framework
>>FoxSolutions Application Framework
>>Visual MaxFrame Professional (VMP)
>>SoftClassics CodeMine
>>Visual FoxExpress
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>>I've looked at demo apps and documentation (such as they are) for the above and am making comparisons to VFPs gererated applications.
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>>Can anyone who has worked with any of there offer some input.
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>>After a quick first pass I'm leaning a little toward CodeMine.
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>>Thanks,
>>Joe