Tom,

>>We bled and died on your shores to keep you folks from suffering a very bad fate and now that we get attacked you want to talk with a fanatic?? I think you need a good dose of life's experiences....
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>>Ah ... yes ... Mr. Chamberlain: Give "Herr Hitler" Czechoslovakia and he'll make "nice". Chamberlain's philosphy endures.
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>The British were quick to get rid of Churchill, and did so in the General Election of July 1945, as they wanted to return to a Labour Government and welfare state. Five years of war was enough and Churchill was out of office days before the end of the war with Japan.
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>Tom

We are engendering the same welfare mentallity here, as I'm sure you are quite aware of. Here in Utah; the ostensible capital of pro-family culture there are just as many who worship Baal (materialism) materialism at the expense of their families as anywhere else, with the correspondingly high divorce rates. Children (and enabling parents I might add) who have no notion whatsoever of that which induces character.

Hopefully, with the last couple of years' worth of welfare role reductions we're starting to head in the proper direction. Now all we need to do is freeze government spending for 3-4 years at current levels... <g>