Hi Tony! Could you show an example about how to deal with this stuff? Just make a form with a scrolbar but it does nothing. And I haven't any help file about a properties and events of this object. >through all activex stuff. It comes up as microsoft forms 2.0 scroll bar. >it costs $25 last I checked. I have used the microsoft one to create a >scrolling form for graphical layout, and it works great!