>Well, he claimed that it showed up in VB with a lock symbol. But you are obviously getting different results in VB.

I haven't seen VB do it that way. Do you know happen to know what thread it was, I didn't see it under Mike's message summary? Or did it get lost yesterday?

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>The way you want it to behave makes sense to me...hidden should mean hidden, right?

That's what you would think. Sure would make objects PEMS cleaner in IS. :)

Thanks for the help.