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From
15/10/2001 12:41:39
 
 
To
09/10/2001 13:32:22
Hilmar Zonneveld
Independent Consultant
Cochabamba, Bolivia
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Forum:
Politics
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Other
Title:
Miscellaneous
Thread ID:
00564327
Message ID:
00568598
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42
Hi Hilmar,

I'm working up my list of replys. Sorry to take so long.

>>>In what sense do you think that "Jesus is alive, and Mohammed dead"?
>>
>>Jesus rose from the dead. Mohammed did not. Pretty straightforward.
>
>That's what the Christians claim. However, I have never seen any proof offered, apart from the Holy Script. And if you begin your argument by claiming that the Holy Bible is the book of God, whereas the Holy Qur'án is not, you are commiting a logical error, since this is about the equivalent of circular reasoning (that is, you take that, what you want to prove, as a starting-point of the proof).
>
>Hilmar.

Well, there are a couple of issues here if I may...

First of all, there are records outside of what we call the Bible that also record the resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth. Look at the works of Josephus for example.

As to the bit about circular reasoning there are some issues that you do not appear to be aware of or you'd see that your remark wasn't accurate.

One of these has to do with the notion that of the 66 books in the Bible there were some 44 authors whose lives covered some 1500 years. The remarkable issue is that there is so much harmony actually among the authors. I've been studying and reading the Bible for some 30 years now and I can attest to this uniformity.

Another issue that you may find interesting is the whole notion of textual criticism. THat is, the studies that are involved with answering the question, "How did we get these documents and are they accurate?" This, of course, is a science and aplies to all extant documents. Given the remarkable methods Jews employed to propigate their Torah and prophests and so forth it really is a remarkable story.

Yet another issue is the historical accuracy of the Bible. There is not one single case where archaeology has proven a Biblical passage innacurate. Quite the contrary. Critics over the centuries have consistently and constantly challenged various parts of the recorded Bible histories and in every case the Bible has been proven accurate rather than the critics.

Still another interesting isue is that of prophecy. There are some 300 specific predictions of the first coming of the Christ. They were all fulfilled - one of them to the specific day - 173880 days after the proclamation to 'restore and rebuild Jerusalem'. To the day. There are over 300 specific prophecies concerning the 2nd coming. Many many many of them have come together - none more remarkable that the re-emergence of the state of Israel - specifically predicted some 5-700 years BC.

Then there are the countless millions who's lives have been changed.

And so on..

I certainly understand your skepticism and, quite candidly, I applaud you for it. I can assure you that should you ever decide to do a little real investigation yourself you can rest assured you will come to the same conclusions I have. The Bibke is a singularly unique book. No other book or series of books declares with the same authority that which the Bible does.

Don't reply out of ignorance. Please go dig and find out for yourself that what I am telling you is true. If you are serious I can provide references. Start with Josh McDowell's book, "Evidence that Demands a Verdict".

I wish you well....
Best,


DD

A man is no fool who gives up that which he cannot keep for that which he cannot lose.
Everything I don't understand must be easy!
The difficulty of any task is measured by the capacity of the agent performing the work.
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