Alex,

>>>>Would you object to separate posters/signs around a school that said:
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>>>>Don't steal
>>>>Don't Lie
>>>>Don't murder your classmate
>>>>Don't take something that's not yours
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>>>>I'm being facetious of course but that's what six (6) of the ten (10) commandments say.
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>As Dragan said, these predate the 10 Commandments. They are just common sense if you want to live in a civilized society.

Really? Where? Cite your sources. Now, they may have been written in some form and that's fine. That doesn't change the fact that the Old Testament is the oldest written source of what we call 'human government' in a formal sense.

Still, that's not the real issue. The issue is that Judeo-Christian thought is absolutely the basis for our current cosiety. Yes, we've strayed from it but it is the basis.

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>Not all that the Bible says should be taken literally or is even good. It says "Don't steal". That's good. It also says to kill your children if they misbehave.

Not so. Look, what you need to do is investigate the reasons why as I mentioned in another message. What God was doing was educating mankind about the deadly effects of sin. It brings death. This 'misbehaving' children were burning their own babies in fire. If I had a child that did that I'd shoot him personally. I don't think you have an adequate appreciation of what God was protecting the Jews from.

>That's not good. It is considered murder in most countries, even though the Bible says it's Ok. Curious, isn't it?
>(if in doubt see: Deuteronomy 21:20-21 / Mark 7:10 / Exodus 21:15 / Exodus 21:17)

Like I said, do a little more research. You'll find that it wasn't as onerous as you think.

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>>Well I suppose from that aspect of the discussion. You do understand that the English translation of the word 'agnostic'' is pretty close to 'ignoramous' don't you? <g> a-gnosko = no knowledge
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>You've said that before. It simply means that an agnostic cannot prove the existance or non-existance of God. One way or another. I'm an agnostic as I cannot prove it and neither can you.

I disagree. Look at the design in a flower Alex and tell me there's no designer. If you do that's willful ignorance, not just plain ignorance. There is a difference between the two.