>>With a relationship from parent table to child table and a grid's recordsource is the child table. Buffermode set to 5 and option to add records to the child table. The records show up in the grid as they are added, but how do you determine out how many records are present in the grid without doing a tableupdate on the child table?
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>>Thanks in advance for any help!
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>RECCOUNT(grid's recordsource)
Thanks for the suggestion, but will tell me what table contains for records.

the child table has numerous records, but I only need the records showing in the grid. Buffering is 5 so the added records are not committed. What I need is a way to determine the number of records in the grid (what is showing) before I do the tableupdate! Problem I have is that the grid is in a class container, and the class needs to report back status of number of records at any time. I have the records initially, but then by adding and deleting records, a way to report the actual records present has been my problem.