>How are you looking back? If you select the work area and use commands like SCAN/ENDSCAN, COUNT, SUM, etc. then you should get the buffered data.
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>If you use SQL statements then you won't because it uses the underlying table opened in a new workarea and this wouldn't have the new changes. This is also true if you open the alias again under a new alias manually.

I was using a SQL because the orginial table has hundreds of thousands of records and typically there is only 3 or 4 records related to the parent table. I find that using anytype of SCAN/ENDSCAN is very time consuming. I was just hoping there was some method or way to identify the small number of records in my grid (ususally 6 or less) I was hoping to find a way to go top, go bottom in grid and somehow determine the numer of rows, but unable to determine the number of rows in grid!! I was trying to get count of records with RECNO() less then 0 but this is very timeconsuming as well.

Thanks for your suggestions, but it looks like the tableupdate option will be more favorable being controlled from the class than the form.