>Ok, same problem though. I'll try updating to msxml3 and see if that fixes anything. (i'm hoping that msxml2 is just fubar'd)

You can try it, but I don't see why your code shouldn't work. Have you stepped through the code to see what happens to the tr elements?

>Where? irc.uhacc.org doesn't connect anymore and irc.levelextreme.com only has #admin, and the only one there is Chanbot. Am I missing something? ( i feel like a missed an important memo )

Actually, #visualfoxpro is still there. I think its just hidden... no clue why though.