>I am using VFP 7.0, and the trouble I am having is the 'SET TALK OFF' does not seem to have an effect. I am buffering the data using a optimistic buffer, and when I issue the tableupdate() command my entire screen shift upward with the talk that is occuring. I have placed set talk off every where I can think of including the button that runs the tableupdate. I even went as far as to try set console off, that did not work either. does anybody have any idea???

Searching the project won't discover when a new datasession kicks in with the defaults reapplied. The simple trick is to have Set("Talk") in the watch window with a watchpoint on it, so it will stop on the command which changes it. The sure-fire catcher, worked each time.