>I meant the full disclosure vrs. bug secrecy stuff

Ahhh, I see. Well, I posted a message in the chatter forum, personally, I'm against full disclosure. I'm not very sure here, but I don't think that Full Disclosure and Bug Secrecy are mutually exclusive, though they seem to be presented that way. Perhaps the best solution is a hybrid.

Keep in mind, I'm not a security buff. Though, I do know what its like to find bad bugs in widley distributed software. I also know what its like to loose some time fixing problems like Code Red. So I'd say I'm more partial to bug secercy.