Doesn't count is right. I wonder who the genius was that came up with the idea that working more hours makes you a better and more productive employee when there are studies that affirm that work over the 40 week decreases productivity and accident rates go up in industrial work areas. Not to mention estranging me from my family on weeks with crunching deadlines. Once you fall into the trap of working more than 8 you never get to go back without them giving you the look when you leave. I am of course comparing us to re-runs of Leave it to Beaver when Ward was always around and only worked 8 a day and always had time to do other things.