You make it sound like the two SHAW plants are 'worlds apart!' :0) I didn't realize Jim worked at the 'executive' location. I'll have to give him a hard time about that. Actually, Jim is a good friend of mine. His step-daughter is my best friend from the ol Army days (years ago!). We were stationed together during training, language school, and in Panama. She and I get together at least once, maybe twice a year and burn the phone lines talking every week. Our daughters are the same age too. They are a great group of people. You'll have to meet them sometime at one of the Shaw events!