>>>>>>I have been tormented by this message for months. When two or more users start to use my invoice form, I get this error. I am on optimistic buffering mode (master - record buffering, detail - table buffering in grid). It happens occasionally when a user finishes one invoice (tableupdated) and is half way through the second invoice entry while another user is doing the same stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Anyone can suggest the possible cause of this problem?
>>>>>
>>>>>How do you add records to the table? How do you assign primary keys? Does your code contain any REPLACE FOR or REPLACE ALL statements?
>>>>
>>>>I use TASTRADE kind of NEWID to assign primary key (surrogated key). After APPEND BLANK in the master table, I use INSERT (key) VALUES (key) where key is the value obtained from master table. In grid, I use REPLACE key WITH master.key. I can't find any REPLACE ALL/FOR command in my form but I certainly have DELETE FOR EMPTY(xxxfield) (details table) before I do tableupdate. Do you think it matters?
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes.
>>>
>>>There are a certain number of commands that place an
>>>implicit file lock on the table. Replace all/for
>>>and also Delete all/for are a couple of them. You might
>>>try to find some other way to handle the deletion of records
>>>with empty fields if you feel that is necessary. Such as
>>>locate empty records within a do while loop and rlock with error
>>>handling before deleting.
>>>
>>>But probably you need to use form validation with optimistic
>>>buffering. The form validation will check for an empty in
>>>these key fields and not call the save until whatever validation
>>>you choose to put in there are satisfied.
>>>
>>>Hope this helps.
>>>
>>>Dan
>>
>>Thanks for the advice. But what do you mean by 'not call the save until whatever validation..'? I assume when you say 'form validation', you are saying validation in some controls. If this validation fails, I don't allow them to save. Do I get you right? If I get you right, I can't because there is nothing wrong with adding empty records.
>
>
>Let me see if I get you right you are issuing a DELETE FOR
>EMPTY(keyField) correct. When I first got started in foxpro just
>fresh form DBASE IV, I used a lot of DELETE FOR's and REPLACE
>FOR's. I had many problems with this "Record in user by another"
>message. The advice given to me was "Don't use these unless
>this is done as some type of night-time processing when there
>is no chance of other users being on the system. If at some
>point you need to get rid of these records, I would suggest an
>alternative way. Don't add these empty records if you were going
>to delete them anyways.
>
>If you have a "Save" button on your form. Add a method to your
>form "formValid" which checks for any number of things and
>returns a false if it does not pass. One of these tests could
>be checking for empty key fields. If the formValid method
>returns a false, let the user know what's happening but do not
>save this record.
>
>Dan
>:)
>
>HTH

Got it. Thanks a lot for the advice. I deleted away the DELETE FOR EMPTY(XX) this morning. However, as you probably know, I am still having other problems.

Thanks.