>>Happens everytime. I can remove the toolbars, close and reopen the form so that Resource file picks up that tools bars were removed, restore and place the toolbars. All toolbars will then be in the position they were left in for the duration of the session, but once VFP is closed, I am back to square one.
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>Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Looks like a bug to me.
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>I found that if custom toolbar(s) is/are not present, or not docked to the top, this does not occur, and the toolbars go back to previous positions. In your example, leaving the custom toolbars (i.e. your toolbar, superclass) undocked or docked to the side or bottom seems to make life good again.
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>I hope this helps.

Jim,

Unfortunately it does NOT. I have found a working environment over time which works for me, and that means finding tools where I expect them, so I don't have to think about where they are. The tools should stay where there are placed, and the users wishes respected. In my case, most of the toolbars present and docked, are custom toolbars. The only VFP toolbars I use on a regular basis are the Form Designer, and Alignment toolbars. As you said, this is a bug, and needs to be addressed. Hopefully in the first service pack ????

I have another interface issue but this is a wish list item. Could you suggest to the VFP team that the column widths of the Trace window in the Debugger should be retained just as other debugger positons are retained by the resource file? This has long been a source of irritation, but has always been this way, so I won't label it a "bug".