Mike,

>>No argument at all. Again, you control the web service. Ask those folks to pay you but that you cannot guarantee that the web service they will be relying on will be there next week and see how fast they sign up. < g >
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>If the service goes belly up, oh shucks, I'll just find a differnt way to print my signs. But while it was there, it sure was a cheap easy way to get the thing done.

Well, again, if you feel comfortable directing your customers to a site you cannot guarantee then just remember that your customers, even if they understand that sites can and do disappear, will still begin to suspect your judgement for directing them there in the firat place.

Just think about it..

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>>I just will not sell my product using a 3rd party's web services for the reasons stated above.
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>I won't sell a product I don't own either. But I'll give them the oppurtunity to go the cheap route, and I'll plug the Web services in if thats what they want. And I think thats what they want.

Well, see above. I totally understand your desire to avoid costs. In that case just provide the web service yourself.

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>>No.. You're just plain wrong..
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>Aw crap ;-)

< LOL >

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>>Just kidding.. Of course. If we need to do that we sure can. Candidly I don't think we're all that far apart.
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>Not that far, but we shoudl just leave it at this. I don't see any way for either of us to change our minds until we actually see it fail or succeed.
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>*Mike makes a mental note to revist this thread in 5 years so he can tell DD "I told you so!"*

No problemo Mike.. I enjoy these exchanges.