Tom,

>>Jim, et al,
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>>>>>>>In fact, isn't the whole point of discussions like these for people to share the experiences that have formed their opinions with the goal of influencing the opinions of others? (Actually, frequently, the participants know they won't change the other participants' opinions, but aim to influence the lurkers.)
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>>>>>I've never aimed anything at a lurker myself. I suppose that some do. My aim was to add perspective to the opinion that you had expressed, possibly changing some part of your opinion in the process. Not at all to change other peoples' opinions.
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>>>>FWIW, I'm the one who made the comment about aiming at lurkers. Certainly when I discuss a topic for the nth time with the same person (as, say, religion with Doug Dodge <g>), I know I'm not going to change that person's views. But, by expression my own in what I hope is a well-reasoned way, I may influence the thinking of others who are reading the exchange.
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>>>Well... maybe I do do it too then. I felt that I continued beyond reason sometimes just because I'm pig-headed, but maybe I am trying to influence others.
>>>Never really thought of it that way.
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>>>>Tamar
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>>I always try to influence others if I believe something. Why even bother jumping into a discusison if youhave no opinions??? However, I am always aware of my own ability to deceive myself (though I have noticed some others aren't yet) so to the best of my abilities I remain open to new ideas. IMO I get the best of both worlds, not the worst.
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>>Who in the world respects some spineless, opinion-less middle-of-the-road individual who has no opinion on anything? Might as well be talking to a painted wall.. <g> I like the challenges as they make me grow, educate me on the thinking of others and reminds me that life should be lived...
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>Doug;
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>I have found it beneficial to never argue with people with opinions based upon ignorance or emotion. It is a waste of my time and I allow such people to remain in his/her own world. While I am productive such individuals are in a state of rage and unable to function. Never hold on to anything negative – only positive! And keep a smile on your face. It helps! :)
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>Tom

Well, I'm something of an optimist. <g>