>>'most Christians'? You paint with a really broad brush, Mike, especially when you attempt to make the exception the rule.
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>Then educate me please. Its my understanding that anyone who agrees with the bible thinks that abortion and euthanisia are wrong.


Interesting. So it is your 'understanding' that the Bible teaches that abortion and euthanasia are wrong. Actually, so do I. But, not everyone who claims to be a Christian believes that. Christianity is a HUGE tent and not everybody who claims to be under it recognizes everyone else who claims to be under it. People who believe in miracles claim to be Christians. So do people who do not. People who believe the Universe was created in 6 literal days claim to be Christians, while some who believe that the Big Bang is the best explaination also claim to be Christians. Some who don't believe that Christ was a real individual, or that if he was real he didn't rise from the dead, yet claim to be Christians. Some of the greatest human beings that ever lived claimed to be Christian, and so have some of the worst.
Each camp of Christians have their reasons for believing what they do. Some codify them into 'doctrines' and then, also because they feel compeled to do so by those very doctrines, seek converts. In fact, Jesus himself is recorded as instructing the Apostles to do that very thing. He is also recorded as making definite statements about who He is and what He was here for. "I and the Father are one." "He that believes in me shall have eternal life." "I am the way, the truth and the light. No man comes unto the Father except through me." A person either accepts those statements or rejects them. There is no middle ground.

As far as the 'unborn' go... God has even refered to twin fetus' in the womb as 'Nations' - Gen 25:23 - which takes them beyond being mere individuals by speaking about multitudes yet unborn. Or Ecc 11:5 Or in Jer 1:5 "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations" By the time an individual has achieved adulthood their cells have undergone numerous doublings. No doubling of any significance takes place at the moment of birth, and as one continues back through the doublings you arrive at the place were doublings begin... a fertilized egg. That is the moment at which the individual become unique. Components of conception do not becomes a person (except for the extremely rare case of parthenogenisis, and then only females can result.). Everything after conception is just differentiation and doubling, and no man can claim with any biological authority that any givn time after conception, or before natural death, that a human being is no longer a human being. Some have tried. We donote their efforts with the title 'despot'.

About evolution, an engineer from MIT, Dr. Wal Brown, made the following observation: "If evolution happened, then death was widespread before man appeared. But if death preceded man and was NOT a result of Adam's sin, then sin is a fiction. If sin is a fiction then we have no need of a Savior."

I think that about sums it up. In the end, you will accept all of the Bible, or none of it, and you will live and die with your choice.




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>>It is people who are dangerous, Mike.
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>Yes, people with beliefs.

So, you have no "beliefs"?
Everything you know, you know as fact?
Also Interesting. Ever hear of Godel's Second Law?