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15/12/2001 23:56:56
 
 
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13/12/2001 12:55:11
Dragan Nedeljkovich (Online)
Now officially retired
Zrenjanin, Serbia
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Hi Dragan,

Sorry for the delay. Work and about 11 inches of new snow.. <g>

>>Some cultures deserve to be wiped out.
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>Consumer culture comes to mind.

< LOL! >

Indeed..

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>> However, I am not in favor of nor would I advocate what you are suggesting.
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>I am not suggesting anything here. I was hinting, though, at the history, and its repetitions.

No need to hint. Just come on out and say it man! <g> You are, of course, quite correct that history repeats itself. That was what I was trying to point out to Mike actually.

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>> As a matter of fact you need to update you list of objections as that practice really has been out of practice for many decades. Now you will usually see itinerant, local-born and bred missionaries who work within the culture. You need to get a better objection. <g>
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>OK, point me to the document where any church has publicly denounced the genocidal acts committed under its umbrella. One thing I remember from history is that the first saint officially appointed by any christian church (and there was only one at the time) was a certain Roman emperor in Constantinopolis, who has opted for Christianity and organized a slaughter of several thousand infidels. Correct me if I'm wrong, but is he still a saint? I mean, if that was done for political reasons, it could have been reverted later when the situation changed. Or "the Party is always right, Winston".

Well, you mean like the Roman Catholic church and the Inquisition? Or by the Muslims against the Christians last year where they poured gasoline on a father and son and set them on fire?

I think you'll be waiting a long time but I also think that your presumprions are sort of misplaced. I am not attempting to compare one religious system against another. From my POV it is all religious systems against God and His Christ. Are organized religious systems automatically bad or evil? No, not at all. Do they do stupid, bad and even evil acts? Yes, they do. What does that have to do with God other than that these people are misrepresenting Him? Not a lot IMO. But please do not toss out the idea of God because people are stupid and evil.

This is a sort of regular issue where people try and blame God for the deeds that men do as a result of their own choices. It's not logical nor is it correct.

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>>>Never got around to ask you, which gets me a more qualified devil in charge of flames under my kettle - not believing at all, or believing in a guy from the competition's shop?
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>>Good question... Neither. The Bible says that all are (equally) under this judgement as we are all considered as completely in sin, even if you didn't "do the deed", as they say. That way God can be equally as 'generous' in His grace and forgiveness - even if you didn't deserve the forgiveness, which BTW no one does. Nobody..
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>Actually, I have no dilemma - knowing my skills and ways around, I know I have spent enough time tending the fire in my father's moonshine destilery (which is completely legal back home) - I'm going straight to hell, qualifying as a devil apprentice, to keep a warm place for someone. Too bad nobody reported back from there, so if you get to be boiling on my fire (or vice versa), we won't be able to write here about it... :)

I don't see this as a laughing matter but I understand what you are getting at. < s >
Best,


DD

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