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16/12/2001 13:27:22
Dragan Nedeljkovich (Online)
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Zrenjanin, Serbia
 
 
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16/12/2001 12:36:49
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>>This is called 'agnosticism' (a-gnosis, where 'gnosis' is Greek for 'knowing' or 'knowledge'), roughly translated from Latin as 'ignoramous'. <g>
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>The difference between me and agnostics is, they usually wonder "Does God exist?" while I try to live my life as the question itself did not exist.

Nope, that's atheists - the guys who feel the urge to deny the existence of deities. Agnosticism simply states the matter is undecidable (and therefore not worth the trouble) - as in "can not be known".

>This is the same thing humans have done since we've been around. People that didn't understand the Sun assigned a God to it, or how the seasons worked, ect. As we started learning about our world and its surrondings, we didn't need God's for everything.

Let's start the Magic Smoke Digital Religion - the initial axiom is that all the electronics are powered by magic smoke, which can be proven by the fact that they stop working when the smoke goes out of them. Do you really know how a microprocessor works? MSDR is the only viable explanation.

>>This is irreduceably true. You will die some day. I will die some day. This issue will be dealt with and there is no avoiding it whatsoever. This is reality. Every single human wil face these issues and IMO it is far better to so do now and be prepared than later and not be prepared.
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>Don't get your hopes up. You spend your time preparing for the afterlife, and I'll spend mine leading the life I have. Then, wether or not there is an afterlife (I'm not thinking there is) I won't be dissapointed. You, on the other hand, might be.

You know, I still don't understand people who spend their lives getting prepared for the nothing after.

>Me first and always. Huh. I don't know what to say to that. Its pretty insulting though. The fact that I don't believe in your god means I'm naturally selfish. Who's under what spell here?

I've been under similar half-insults from believers before, which usually boil down to two types: type A, "you can't be a good person because you're not believing", or type B "you seem to be a good person, therefore you're living a life of a good Christian but you won't admit it". They usually think they have the monopoly to all things good, and frown heavily upon the open source community :). Doug may be an exception to this to an extent.

>>If man is just an animal and all that there is is a physical universe then the concept of love is a cruel hoax.
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>You're the one setting yourself up for disappointment. Its your decision.

This is actually such a sort of implied insult. I read "If man is just an animal and all that there is is a physical universe then the concept of love is a cruel hoax" as "there can be no love among unbelievers", i.e. "the unbelievers are not completely human", i.e. ... how many steps does it take until some real segregating action is taken?

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