>So essentially you just avoid the issues? I've never found that by ignoring an issue that it will go away.

Ignoring an issue? Its not even an issue to me, thats the thing. Example, what is the meaning of life? First of all, is there a meaning of life? There's really no reason to believe one exists, so why even ask what it is? Thats how I look at the god thing.

>>If I have an opinion, I HAVE to believe that my opinion is the only one and the best one?
>Sounds like you're admitting you have a elief system to me. Or do you just say things? <g>

Read it again. My response was a question to what you said. You said I had to believe in my opinion to give it. I'm saying that is not the case, and thats how bad things start.

>No, I don't care to think for you whatsoever.

You think I have a belief system, and I just don't want to admit.

>I understand that this issue isn't on your 'radar screen'. Why then do you seem to feel compelled to engage in these conversations?

It was more of the religion=opiate thing I wanted to show.

>>Exactly. The best reason (or pseduoreason) to believe in god is "It gives life meaning/hope/reason/ect.". Well, I say forget that. Like I said, I don't need supernatural entities to make life feel worthwhile. I do pretty good on my own. Basically, religion would be filling a whole that I don't have.
>Are you saying that your life doesn't have "meaning/hope/reason/etc" or that you just do not care? Remember.. It's a relationship, not a religion..

Doug, maybe this is just me, but you are concluding the exact opposite of what I say. Is it my fault for being so cryptic? No, I'm saying that even without a supernatural explantion of life, I have those things, and I don't need a relationship with your god to get them.

>Not so. In this case I wouldn't know, would I? <g> From my position my life is filled with joy, peace and love now and when I awake after this life it just goes on for eternity whereas you have no "meaning//hope/reason/ect." as you stated above and then all traces of you just disappear?
>Doesn't sound like your position has much to offer..

So? That makes it wrong because its not as nice?

>Well, look.. If you assert that all of your beliefs come as a result of you thinking about them...

I did not assert that, I said that I do not have beliefs. Can you grasp that?

>...and you do not provide any other source for them then, yes, from your point of view it is all about you.

Why do you think I don't have sources? I don't have a specific book full of storys about whales, ect. as one of my sources, but I rely on external data to help me think. What you're thinking of doesn't even make sense.

>So, when you assert that you believe that your opinion is "the only one and the best one" I draw the conclusion that your thinking process is the final arbiter in your mind as to what to believe or not or what is right or wrong.

No, you said that thing about believing opionions. I said that was BS, and you did too. You're BSing yourself.

>>>>Ok, give one simple, valid argument that proves there is a god.
>>>love
>>Hmmmm. I can't say I've seen a valid argument expressed in one word before. Care to symobolize that?
>The cross of Jesus.

You kill me sometimes.