>>>>Yes, I made a slight change which I thought was an update but turned out to be a second post. I think it is going to be a long day! :) I have had my usual one cup of tea (herbal as I can't have caffeine) so I do not know what happened. I start working at 0630 and am a morning person but these days there is too much going on to think straight.
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>>>It may have been my quick reading, I think you can only update if the post hasn't been read, if it has then the update appears as a reply to yourself.
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>>>>I have always thought it to be interesting that anyone reading or quoting Karl Marx would be thought of as a communist by many people I have met in the South or Mid Western parts of the United States during the early 1960’s. This is just a personal experience.
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>>>That thought did pass my mind.
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>>>>It is amazing how ignorance drives people. People could become so enraged and intolerant when they saw me reading Das Capital or even discuss it. Things were a bit different on the West Coast at that time (and now). Open discussion on such matters was as common as breathing and you did not have to worry about it.
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>>>I have often found that in the UK too. There does appear to be an irrational fear of differing opinions & cultures. Maybe they fear that whatever you are reading about has such strong allure, you will automatically be converted.
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>>>>There are indications that our country is more tolerant than I remember it as a 17 year old in the military. However, there are still places I would never visit because of the hatred I remember expressed towards anyone who was not of the “proper faith, color, political orientation and God knows what else.
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>>>I know one or two places over here where I have found that keeping my mouth closed is the safest action to take. Any view contrary to the prevailing view can lead to varying degrees of injury.
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>>>>By the way the Inca's of Peru (my wife is from Peru) had the first true socialist society - which worked well until the Spainards came to visit! :)
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>>>First drugs, then religion & now politics : something for everybody to argue about, the sort of conversation I like.
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>>>(PS. At the risk of being branded communist, I will confess to having strong socialist leanings)
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>>What? I'm shocked! ;-)
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>>Tolerance of other views is not a domain occupied by the left. In fact, on many college campuses in the USA the left dominates political thought and won't all any 'unapproved' speakers, organizations, etc... What they claimed they didn't have in the 60's with their 'free speach' movements (but actually did) is exactly what they now, as administrators and professors, won't allow to others. Extremists on the left meet extremists on the right on the opposite side of the big political circle.
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>Jerry;
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>This might be hard to believe as it is taking time for even me to believe what I saw. A few weeks ago at the University of California Berkeley campus, where the “Free Speech Movement” began, a group of students held a rally in support of the United States and its stand against terrorism. There was no opposition! The rally was held at the entrance of the campus. Do you think there may be hope for the world? I do! Even to the extent of rethinking the use of my favorite term to describe Berkeley – Berserk-ley.
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>Tom

You probably heard about that speaker who was booed off the stage when she tried to 'explain' how the US was the cause of the WTC attack.

I heard a saying about Berkeley, the town: "Too small to be a nation, too big to be an insane asylum." This was grafiti painted on a sidewalk just after they passed a nuclear free zone ordanance.