Gerald,

Excellent idea - very clever! I had to think about your answer for awhile before it made sense.

Thanks for your help!
Malcolm


>>Is there a way to remove/hide the 'invisible' (dashed) border displayed around an invisible button when the invisible button has focus? We would like to 'paint' our own border effects using the got/lost focus events vs. use the invisible border painted by default.
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>>I'm wondering if there's some ColorScheme combination or button graphics I could use to eliminate the default 'invisible' (dashed) border?
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>>Any ideas appreciated!
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>>Thanks!
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>If a container is used to hold the button, just move it out of view, ie: if the container.height=30 then the command.top = 35.
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>This way it can hold the focus without being visible (even if the commandbutton was normal).
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>HTH