Thanks Vlad, that's just what I was looking for. Shucks, I was just starting to think I could free up some disk space by taking win32api.hlp offline. Silly me.

Mike

>Take a look to the following Win32 API functions:
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>ClientToScreen, ScreenToClient, GetClientRect, GetWindowRect.
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>Vlad
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>>I'm trying to figure out how to determine the height and width of a window's borders, taking into account such complications as the presence of a menu and variable toolbar docking states, as well as the window title, constant "border" thickness, etc. To put it differently, I want to find the coordinates of the origin of the window's interior top left corner relative to its exterior top left corner.
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>>Is there any way to do this in Visual FoxPro? Use of sysmetric() doesn't account for toolbars, and it also requires that I make an involved computation at best. WROWS() and WCOLS() + FONTMETRIC() may allow me to compute the actual interior size, but it won't determine the origin position, because this depends on toolbar docking variations.
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>>The ideal solution would be a function that simply allows me to convert from interior form window coordinates into Windows desktop coordinates.
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>>Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. Replies via e-mail preferred, if possible (as well as posting to this group).
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>>Mike Asherman
>>Email: mda@gis.net