Dave,

You are right, I just tried this and the instance of the class on the form can't see it's own protected properties. I'm not sure if this is considered a bug or not, I'm sure it's been that way for a long time now.

This goes to show you just how little I actually use protected and hidden PEMs in VFP. I seriously don't find any practical use for them. They make development and debugging an order of magnitude harder. I'm just an open-access kinda guy *s* If I have a PEM that is intended for "internal" use only I put that information in the PEM comment and that has worked well for me so far.

>>When you drop your class on the form you are in effect creating a subclass and you can override PEMs. Any code you add to this instance ...
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>Notice how you used both "subclass" and "instance" to refer to it. It can't be both, but yet it is.
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>> Any code you add to this instance can access the protected property.
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>No it can't! Thats my point. Add code to the click method of the object on the form and you will see that it won't work.
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>Try
>WAIT WINDOW This.myproperty