>>IMO, its pretty dissappointing to see someone with such technical skills reducded to a propogating bullshiter on behalf of their company.
>or their "community"...< bg > ... And of course, this does not apply specifically to Java. Another community immediately comes to mind....

Not to drag this into personal territory (which I respect you wantting to stay away from), but if thats directed towards me I think you're wrong. If its directed towards other VFP users, whats your point?

And I think there is a difference between the selling out that James Gosling does when doing his job evangalizing Java and a user sticking up for the product that pays the bills. Just an opinion, and I don't think theres any reason to dive deeper into the topic in this thread.