>>what objects/methods could cause the form to quit loading?
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>>the forms .load is returning .t. and the .init never gets called. none of the objects on the form have/need init code. the form consist of a dozen textboxes and a couple radio buttons.
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>>where can i find the order ALL methods fire in during start up of a form.?
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>Foxpro doesn't check return code from the Load event.
>The "natural" order of events on the form is LISA G - Load, Init, Show, Activate and GotFocus. The objects on the form get instaiated after Load and before Init.
>Does this form has DE?
>What is the latest Service pack applied in VFP?

Sorry to jump in but does your form have any comboboxes on it? If so do any of them have more that 260 (odd) entries?