>If this happens only during run-time :
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>This may happen if your framework is the one built by the app wizard . If you select the grid , and it is bound to a table or has one for a source , the program automatically displays a nav menu , below the main one .

No, that's not what happens. You can create a quick test:
have a form with no title bar and top = -2, put a textbox and grids. Set tab order = 1 to a text box. Tab out from it. You will see.

Mark