We obviously have different opinions and I'm not going to discuss this any further. If you choose to belittle the work of others, you should expect defensiveness. Do you also dismiss the Foxpro Advisor awards and the Universal Thread awards? They are composed of the biased opinions of users.

The point of independant reviews is that the vendor is certainly biased. I'm not the only contributor to the chart. The best proponents of each framework are welcome to contribute. Disgruntled customers may also contribute, even critics. As a matter of fact, no one is prevented from contributing by the very nature of the wiki. This provides at least a possibility it will be fair.

Have you never heard the old saying "If you don't have anything good to say, say nothing?"

>>Well, don't contribute and don't complain when others are trying to provide valuable independant reviews.
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>Wow you have an interesting way to interpret things <g>. I said it before and I'll say it again. I never complained I just gave a warning to the original createor of the thread.
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>Valuable independant reviews. Do those really exist? That makes me think that some years ago Gartner gave a valuable independant review to VFP ;-)
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>I don't think that independant review really exists. At some point the reviewer will be influenced by many things.
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>Here is what could go wrong in an independant evaluation of a product.
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>For example the evaluator has to evaluate the product X
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>The evaluator has to evaluate products but that evaluator already uses one or many products by competitors or is a close friend with the makers of some products. There's a possibility that the evaluation will be biased.
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>The points taken for the evaluation could be those favoring some products over product X. So someone looking at the evaluation could think that product X is not so good when in fact product X could do some things that the other products are not doing.
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>The evaluation could favor a product over product X because the bigger the market for the product that competes with product X the better chances for the evaluator to get potential customers that will request his services.
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>There could be other things that could influence an independant review but I'm sure gou get my point.