>Isn't FoxExpress an app builder instead of a framework?

Visual FoxExpress includes an app builder, but that's just part of the total package. VFE also is a framework and the framework is probably more significant than the app builder. The app builder is just an interface to the framework. If you like Codebook, you'll love VFE. In addition to adding an interface to the framework there's tons of enhancements - new business objects, different form types, more support for local tables, child forms, etc. in all VFE adds about 200 classes to the Codebook framework and include many significant enhancements to the existing classes. Also, you get full DBCX integration and you no longer have to hand code data environments.

Mike