>Well, essentially there are two generalized notions regarding man and his nature. One, from the pov that most hold is that mankind is generally moving upwards. This includes the notion of evolution and so forth. The other is that man has fallen and is moving downwards in a general sense. Governments, morals, and so forth are degrading naturally rather than becoming better.

I don't see those as being mutually exclusive, to tell you the truth.

FWIW, I don't think the ideal civilization needs a "government".

>So, when man sees himself as only animal it is a denial of a part of humanity, if that makes sense.

I understand where you're coming from, but I disagree completely. Since the beginning of time there has been those notion of "the chosen land/race/people/sex/species" with no real proof. I think it has alot to do with people wanting to be more important than they are.

>>Loving your familiy and friends is also good ol' human conditioning. There is nothing supernatural involved with the concept of love.
>IMO a gratuitous assertion without much proof.

As far as the proof goes, I dunno, this isn't something I've researched very well.

But, for arguments sake, lets take this scenario. A baby is switched at birth. The baby grows up and learns to love his non-biological mother and father. One day, he's walking down the road and sees his bilogical mother, though, neither of them know it. Is there something spiritual between them? Is there any love? I doubt it. They haven't been told that they should love each other so they don't.

>I would think that there is more than chemicals.

Like what? Cupid's arrows? Magic?