>ok - so this creates a big window that wont fit on the screen and allows the user to enter in data into the fields. what i would like to do is put that large window into a smaller one that fits on the screen and has scroll bars that let you run up and down the larger one, moving it up and down so you can get to the different data entry points. i also dont want to use the form designer, but i will if it makes it work! :-)

I worked on code in the late 80's to get scrollability in FoxPro windows. It's not worth the effort to write it yourself.

Work with the product. Do this in the Form Designer and set the form's ScrollBars property to an appropriate value.

Tamar