Eylon,

>I don't know the rest of the stuff but - did you ever develop in Magic!?
>Obviously not.
Actually thats the one product which I have not seen live or got a demo of.
As I cannot find any prices and most of the blurb talks about £3million projects, I suspect price wise its way out of my league. :(
PDFs look good though :)
If corporates are spending that level of money on it, I assume they will want some return on their investment. On the other hand, the higher up the ladder you go, the dizzier people seem to be.

>What good is a cool "4GL" environment where you can hardly >do anything? >Technical specs are not everything...
True. Marketing clout seems to account for most software purchases, regardless of suitability :)

Malc