Dave, you may want to post this message on the VMP web site:
http://vmpdiscussion.visionds.com/

This is where Drew Speedie, creater of the framework, hangs out and many other VMP experts.

>I see in the Visual MaxFrame site that Steven M. Black of SBC endorses VMP.
>I am assuming this is you.
>I have a more detailed question.
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>In the VMP web site it states :
>"The current version of VMP includes a set of specific n-Tier services classes that can be used in many different application scenarios including: VMP desktop applications, COM objects, and web applications like Voodoo Web Controls and Web Connect. "
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>Have you used Visual Max Frame in this capacity?
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>Does VMP make it easier to build middle tier business objects usable with WWC and desktop applications ?
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>Any help/advice/insight into this issue is greatly appreciated.