>>With the third party products is almost as easy as run a wizard to do things like create a parent/child data form.
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>Almost as easy? What do you mean by almost? FWIW, frameworks like VFE do zero code generation. What frameworks do you use, and how much code does it take to create a complex application?

Mike;

Perhaps our definition of "code generation" is a bit different. Having been a member of the VFE Pioneer Engineering Team, and a VFE user I would say that indeed VFE generates code. So does Visual Maxframe Professional, which I also use. Each time a new application is created a number of user prompts are selected and this allows the creation of the “type of application” the user selects. It does so by generating the appropriate code from the foundation libraries which are a part of the product.

Tom