Russ,

>>Remember, when you and your wife are having a disagreement intellect will never satisfy emotion. Some folks feed on the emotions of others.
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>Ah well, if he gets a jolt out of it, and prefers that to being reassured, it's all good.
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>In all the years I've been participating in message boards (back to 300 baud one-line BBS's), I have only seen two instances where someone was convinced by someone elses opposing argument. Both times the convince-ee was me.
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>Maybe there's something wrong with me <s>

Nahh.. Anyone who would be willing to use Modem or Modem7 surely has the tenacity to survive the JVP's of the world. John's a nice guy who just needs to think he's able to construct such a compelling argument that everyone will agree with him. I think he forgets that old adage about catching more bees with honey than vinegar. <s> IMO it's really not a technical deficiency in him (or Steve Black for that matter) but the personality flaws that we all have but in their case causes them to do what they do.

BTW.. I started then too. Well, actually, I had a neighbor who had one of his ham radio buddies send me a message on his teletype. I thought I'd died and gone to heaven! Send me a message from somwhere else in the world!?!?! Wow!!! <g> And ring the bell too??!!?? LOL!!