>Apparently not everyone gets Enterprise Manager with MSDE. I don't know what I would do without it, I've heard you can manage the MSDE database from Access. If push came to shove (if I didn't have Enterprise Manager), I would get the Developer Version.

Would have been nice if MS packaged it all together for developers. Thanks for the info. I will check around on teh prices. By teh way, do you use any frameworks for your apps? If you do, which one would you recommend? Is it worth it?

Thanks Steve.