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22/05/2002 11:10:42
 
 
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Politics
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Miscellaneous
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00659524
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Alex,

>>For those who claim they don't "live by faith", please post the correct value for the Cosmological Constant (found in the Einstein metric) and enlighten the rest of us. Even Stephen J Gould, who died of cancer yesterday, at the age of 60, and Stephen Hawking both admit to an 'admixture of philosophy' in their respective disciplines. In other words, they begin with assumptions they assume are true but cannot prove. That's "living by faith". You have a fabulous career ahead of you in the natural sciences if you can do what Hawkings and Gould could not.
>>JLK

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>Wrong. Science has no need and does not use faith, but the scientific method. You think something works in a certain way. Therefore you postulate an hypotesis that tries to explain - and predict - the world, or whatever it is you are trying to explain, in light of that hypotesis.

Sure it does. It believes in certain theories. Einstein's for example. However, as I understand it they have become a little suspect in recent years as not being the end-all.

Scientists "believe" other scientists. They have to or do all the experiments themselves.

Scientists "believe" in their hypothesis. That's why they take the time to test them.

Absolute knowledge is not to be found in mankind as absolute implys infinite and man is anything but.

Boy, talk about needing a course in logic. *gd&rvvf*


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>If it is shown by repeated experimentation, independent testing, predictions coming to pass, then it becomes a theory, which is the highest point it can reach.
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>If it is shown that you have a flaw, and all hypoteses and theories are falsifiable, then you discard it, or some aspects of it, and search for a new explanation or solution. Faith not needed or involved.

Sure it is. The trouble you're having here is that you haven't realized that faith always has an object. The God revealed in the Bible is the object of my faith and perhaps your own mind is the object or yours? Or somebody else's body of knowledge (their mind, expressed in their speeches or writings). Faith always has an object. You trust human intellect as expressed in the scientific method - a helpful but incomplete set of rules for determining truth.
Best,


DD

A man is no fool who gives up that which he cannot keep for that which he cannot lose.
Everything I don't understand must be easy!
The difficulty of any task is measured by the capacity of the agent performing the work.
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