thanks again kathy for your support in fact I wish this comunity to make a project having all the expert pepole over here like you and the other pepole also I like Ed he is supporting me alot and I'm prowed of him he has a great mind to think and I like his type of thinking, in fact cathy I'm also damn good in V.F. but the problem I have a big load on my head in my company handling many things so some times my mind stuck in small things and I used to do it before but because I do not keep the small testing code I made so I forget, I should have a library to remind me and my company making me handel many things like Vending machines,software,networking GSM and smart cards everything you can think of IT all me in house, so thanks for help and if you would like me to help also I can do that.

best regards

Hisham