>I would also question anybody who says categorically
"I don't know how the universe was created, but it is clear it was controlled by a higher force", if you don't know how it happened, how can you state that it was caused by something God like (I am assuming here that by higher force, you/they are refering to some form of sentient force as opposed to an, as yet, unknown force like gravity, electromagnetism etc.)
I was parphrasing the exact quotes, but that's pretty much what they said. I'll see if I can find the paper and post more information.
Craig Berntson
MCSD, Microsoft .Net MVP, Grape City Community Influencer