Andrew,

Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, that idea has been suggested and eliminated. A primary ActiveX control on the form appears to be forcing the form to be visible during the Load event. I've tried disabling the ActiveX control, making it invisible, explicitly setting visible to .F. in the Load method, etc.

So far, the only 2 possible solutions seem to be:

1) Set thisform.Left to an offscreen value in the designer, then reset it to an onscreen value after setup -- this is annoying during development, plus it counteracts the AutoCenter property.

2) Us thisform.addobject() to instantiate the ActiveX control at runtime. This is a little cumbersome in using the designer, but I guess it's the best option, sor far.

Any other inspiration would be appreciated.

Joe