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Pledge of Allegiance - Prophecy
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>Doug;
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>You have your own reality and it does not agree with the rest of the world. Atheism is not faith based but is material based. Faith is not a part of atheism. Atheists believe in the world as it appears before them and not something that is faith based.
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>Your terms may not agree with the rest of the world and your beliefs change nothing about reality outside of your own thoughts. The argument you present is illogical as it is not defined correctly. You have taken an incorrect premise and extended it to a position to “prove your point”.
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>An atheist does not try to or have to disprove the existence of God. An atheist tells someone who believes in God, “Show me proof”! It is the responsibility of the believer to show the atheist material proof of the existence of God. How many atheists have you convinced of God’s existence and what proof was used? Would or did an atheist have “faith” in your example or examples?
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Matieralistic atheists, or any other kind, accept their POV by faith, even if they don't realize and/or admit it. How? Simply because as they walk backwards through their syllogistic trees they arrive sooner or later at foundational axioms, statements accepted as true because they 'seem reasonable', but which cannot be proven. If the foundation is accepted by faith the entire tree is based on faith. With the Einstein Metric it is the cosmological constant. Ptolemey's Geocentric theories 'explained' all important observable facts about the visible heavens and reigned for hundreds of years. Unexplained 'facts' were not important, or were not 'facts'. Arostotle's views explained the physical world in much the same manner, and reigned for over 1,000 years. Ad Hoc adjustments to both theories abounded. As more and more observations were made of the earth and heavens the number and quality of unexplainable facts become too numerous to ignore. Move forward to the present era. After almost 100 years folks are begining to question the Einstein Metric. The Standard Model is under assault from many quarters, especially with regard to discoveries relating to neutrinos. In the biological world researchers with excellent credentials are challanging the status quo with unanswered data, the ridicule and ad hoc responses not withstanding.
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