John,

As a former student of Kevin's first .Net class...

Oakleaf does perform satisfaction surveys, though it would be up to Kevin if he ever wanted to reveal any of that information. The fact that he is continuing to hold these classes as well as speak on the topic regularly ( recently in Chicago, my people enjoyed it very much. Thanks Kevin ) seems to show it as being successful.

Measuring what actually gets implemented based on training from these classes would not necessarily be any true measure of the classes claims. In my case for instance, we are not scraping our existing huge corporate system just to jump onto the .Net band wagon. But instead we are gradually learning and evaluating .Net, and maybe in 6 to 12 months will start implementing portions of it that make sense to us.

"C# in a day" well... maybe the thing Kevin isn't mentioning is that the day he teaches C# is a pretty long day *s*. Perhaps he's fine tuned it more now.

C# is a very well structured language. In my opinion he does teach that structure very well in a day. You've certainly not mastered the language, you've only learned how to move the chess pieces and what the game is all about, so to speak.

To me it was an extremely valuable week which now allows me to cruise through other .Net books which are of particular interest to me, rather then struggling through them because I might not understand or see the relationship of various concepts.

Anthony Letts


>What would be interesting is a case-study on some of the students that have taken your class.
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>You lay out some rather aggressive claims. It would be interesting to see how folks are actually implementing what is "covered" in your class. Not that I said covered as opposed to learned.