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16/07/2002 09:51:13
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No, I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that I have the right not to have the government do and say certain things that tend to establish a governmental religion. I have no rights regarding what you say, unless you're on my property.
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Then you need to quantify why "under god" equates to gov't sponsored religion. If you cannot logically join the two, your argument falls apart. I understand that you may "feel" as though the gov't is mandating a religion, that does not mean the gov't "is" sponsoring a religion.

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My message to you (and the case that started the discussion) specifically addressed the issue of the Pledge in public school. If you want to say the Pledge including "under God," in your home, in your business, in your private life, I have no rights in that regard. You have the right to do so.
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So bascially, what you are saying is that I don't have the RIGHT to say the pledge, as it is, in a school, specifically, a public school? Also, in your explanation above, you have intertwined your rights with my rights. Somehow, you have managed to make the leap that my excercise of rights I have somehow infringes on your rights. The typical liberal MO is to advocate amendments and legislation that accomplishes goals at the expense of the rights of others. A good example are the folks who stand on sidewalks showing pictures of partially aborted fetuses. I don't agree with their message but I respect their right to free speech. You won't see me flying off the handle advocating legislation and amendments that would infringe on their 1st. Amendment rights.


>However, a public school is a governmental agency, and thus must follow the laws that restrict the government's behavior.
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It is? It must? Because you say so??? Schools are better characterized as quasi-gov't institutions. A lot turns on when the school day occurs and when non-school activities occur. The SCOTUS has held that during off-school hours, religious programs CAN be held in public schools. I could go on about this, but suffice it to say your "analysis" here is flawed and wrong...
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