Oh yes I agree. I just noticed that they seem not to understand and accept their differences in opinions because they go beyond their imagined level as professionals especially Steve. I just can't see even a little form of reconciliation that's why I likened the situation Tom and Jerry show.

>>Sorry to say this, but there are two guys here in Universal Thread who behaves like Tom and Jerry.
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>Jess,
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>I can see that both Steve and John care about what the other one says. I'm not sure if this is some kind of mutual respect or appreciation. They have different POV and interests most of the time (if not all the time), but if one of them didn't like or cared about what the other says, and if that wasn't of any importance at all, they could (and I think they would) simply ignore it.
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>We don't have to agree with any of them, but they are not stupid and are very articulated guys. I think we can learn a lot with their discussions (already got great links refered by Steve, in his messages to JVP, as an example).
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>Fernando