>>No, they were expelled, specially from Spain, to make room for the democratic institution called Inquisition.
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>Hey... I've never said that I thought that the Inquisition was a good thing. That doesn't change the fact that the Crusade was more or less in response to the Muslims first attacking Britain now does it? <s>

What, they bombed London?

>>Their attitude against women today is far less refined, most of the time actually outright cruel and brutal, compared with the same attitude here.
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>It's downright brutal, degrading and almost institutionalally inhuman IMO.

So you agree that there's "the same attitude here" but it's not so brutal and institutionalally inhuman? IOW, are we talking about degrees or about substantial difference?

>>We're talking the Arab science and culture of the X to XIII or even XV century. These guys invented algebra ("al-gebr al-mukabala", "on moving from one side to the other", by Mohammad Al-Horezmi), several things in medicine (Avicena, aka Ibn-Sino), astronomy (Arabian word zemt was misspelled while copying from one Latin translation to another, so we have zenith today), shipbuilding and navigation ("admiral" comes from "amir").
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>Then they should get dredit for what they've added. That doesn't remove from them the responsibility for the other barbarities does it?

Right - they were the flywheel of humanity's progress in those centuries, while Europe (at least West Europe) was a backwater. The roles have swapped later.

>>To ease your mind, though, they're not atheists.
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>That doesn't ease my mind. I have no desire to see anyone lost.

Lost where? Or for what? Or from what? This last word s very ambiguous, and I wouldn't like to read any meaning into it that was not your intention, so I rather prefer to have failed to understand it.