>Craig;
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>I see you also have “a true appreciation for Lotus Notes”. Our corporate standard is Lotus Notes. A shell inside of a shell. Sick!

Yup, that's the problem here...corporate mandates this. IMO, Lotus Notes will just get worse in the future as IBM has announced that it and the Domino server will be rewritten in Java.

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>I know two guys who are Access consultants and two guys who are Lotus Notes consultants. They have no problem finding work and charge $150 an hour. That is fine for them but it does not change my feelings towards either tool!
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>Now for true coding hell, SBT was a good example. I do not know about the present product however.

I've done some SBT modifications in my day and agree with you.