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Pure unadulterated CRAP of the highest order! And I know that you know that too. Why would you say such a thing when you yourself know it is patently false.
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I don't think it is and FWIW, I don't consider myself an expert on .NET because there are people who know a lot more than I do. I think I know more than the average developer, but I would not consider my knowledge expert level.

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No that is decidedly NOT "the bottom line". At issue is whether .NET applications deliered today (or in the reasonable future) are anywhere near well and properly and efficiently done and run. I say none of them can be.
Simply because there is too much yet unfinished and/or clean and/or fully understood for it to be any other way.
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They can and have been delivered. And FWIW, you can write a bad app in a mature language and a great app in a new language. It is almost entirely dependent on the developer skill...


>Now that is a "shot" but I will ignore it.

It is most definitely a shot at those who sit by on the sidelines and wait because while they say they are waiting for things to mature, in reality, they don't wish to put the work into learning.

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Even with picking stuff up quickly there is years of learning to be done.
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I don't think the learning process ends...until your dead...

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KevinM noted that it took him several months just to document the class relationships for himself.
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Don't forget that he was trying to build a product at the same time.. And just because he chose to go one way, it does not mean it was the most efficient route or that it would take you as long.

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As of today he might well have to start over, since things have changed quite a bit since he began that effort.
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If he started with Beta 1, while the IDE may have changed and while some things changed, the fundamentals did not change. I think this is over blown..

>For the record... I don't think I'm lazy and I am not knocking the "product". I am saying that it is huge and still developing and inadequately documented, severely limiting the audience for it at this time.
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FWIW, I don't think your lazy either! As for documentation, I don't know if a product could ever be documented to your liking!! < bg >.. Seriously, the documentation for .NET is decent. Could it better? Yes. But it could be a lot worse.

At some point, you need to get off the dime. The hardest part is getting started. As I said in a separate post, I never met a devloper who learned by watching and waiting.


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