OK John, my previous response and yours got me thinking about this whole arguing and no proof conundrum, let's see how you take on this:

I searched and found Thread #467563 Message #467563 from 1/23/01 and compared it to the number of jobs you were able to find at dice. Here are the results:

1/23/01 numbers:
Visual Basic / VB = 13,321 positions
FoxPro / VFP = 241 positions

7/26/02 numbers:
basic + visual basic + vb = 4462 positions
foxpro + visual foxpro + vfp = 92 positions

Results:
VB positions are 33% of what they used to be, or down around 67%
VFP positions are 38% of what they used to be, or down around 62%

I think this more than supports my claim that we are all worse than what it used to be, and in a twist also gives a faint of validation to Steve's contention that it could be VFP folks are edging better at this point in time. What do you think?

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>Your kidding me, right???? I think the ratio is probably 100 VB jobs to 1 VFP job. As a quick non-scientific test, I went to monster.com. Here are the search phrases and stats for the entire country for the Information Technology Category:
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>foxpro - 53
>visual foxpro - 35
>vfp - 1
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>basic - 1856
>visual basic - 1302
>vb - 1282
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>here they are for dice, for all categories and the entire country:
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>foxpro - 47
>visual foxpro - 36
>vfp - 9
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>basic - 2218
>visual basic - 1168
>vb - 1076
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>justfoxprojobs.com only had 32 entries in the database.
>justvbjobs.com had 932 entries.
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>I have no idea what the quality/pay etc of the jobs are. All that counts is the raw number of opportunities that exist. This is about as hard evidence as you can get. There are those that would like to say and argue that VFP downturns are in the same proportion as every body else. Here is a stat for you: From about 7 years ago, Fox jobs are down about 75-95%.
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