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Divers
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Mike,

>>>Presenting objective evidence will give you an even balance.
>>Human conscience.
>
>Human conscience is your evidence? Are you implying that the only explanation for conscience is related to god? I disagree. At some point in our past it is quite possible that there were human ancestors with no conscience, and some with simply due to the complexity of evolution. Given the right circumstances, natural selection might just guarantee that those with a conscience are able to leave more decendants than those without.

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>In any case, it is simple to look around and find those without an adequate conscience. Does the fact that there are church going human beings who's conscience is barely dectable support your claim? I dunno, but thats something to keep in mind.
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>Finally, there is another explanation for conscience individuals if the natural selection idea fly with you:
>http://www.iht.com/articles/65650.html
>
>Studying neural activity in young women who were playing a classic laboratory game called the Prisoner's Dilemma, in which participants can select from a number of greedy or cooperative strategies, researchers found that when the women chose mutualism over "me-ism," the mental circuitry normally associated with reward-seeking behavior swelled to life.
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>...
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>Instead, the brightest signals arose in cooperative alliances and in those neighborhoods of the brain already known to respond to desserts, pictures of pretty faces, money, cocaine and any number of licit or illicit delights.

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>Excersizing human conscience appears to pleasure a human being in the same manner that snorting a line of coke does.
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>So, the existence (which is controvercial in itself) of conscience is explained by the complexity producing attributes of evolution as easily as pointing to religion; and the free use of conscience can be simply explained by the same factories that drive us to... "sin"... in a bizarre twist of irony.
>
>Any other evidence you'd like the jury to consider today?

Sure.

Love
Man's spirit
The absolutely overwhelming numbers of people on this planet who believe in god.
The order in the universe, contrary to all cosmological 'rules'.
Your insane desire to try and explain it away and to fight so hard against the notion.
All of the references I've given you over the last couple of years - particularly those of the late Dr. Francis Schaeffer.

http://www.gnpcb.org/product/0891075615/
http://www.discerningreader.com/franschaeftr.html
http://www.pcanet.org/history/findingaids/schaeffer/JandR.html
http://www.labri.org/ <-- He founded L'Abri with Edith, his wife.
http://www.labri.org/branch_rochester_intro.htm <-- There's a branch in Rochester Minnesota.
http://www.intouch.org/myintouch/mighty/portraits/francis_schaeffer_213605.html

I would only suggest that if you're truly interested in educating yourself so as to keep your mind as open as possible, you might take the time to read Dr. Schaeffer's works, as I have.

When you're finished there go to: http://www.ldolphin.org/ which is Lambert Dolphin's web page. Dr. Dolphin is considered by many to be one of the leading rocket scientists today. He's speaking this Friday (if memory serves) at Calvary Chapel in Costa Mesa, California. Fortunately for you, if your're really interesteed as opposed to just wanting to frantically defend yourself, you can go wo http://www.calvarychapel.com and follow the links to the CSN live internet radio broadcast. Or go to http://www.csnradio.com directly. The service will start about 7:15ish California time. Won't hurt you one bit to open your mind a little. <g>

When you're through there go to: www.marshill.org where Dr. Eastman nicely carves up the evoloutionary theory. <g>

When you've exhausted those links let me know. I have several more.

That is, if you really do have an open mind.......
Best,


DD

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